The Rule of 3

[Sagan]

As Ipshaw discovered last night, the rule of 3 has been revoked for any who have not specifically accepted this. This is the following of Wisdom and 2 individuals, and the rule of 3 will continue to exist for them, since both sides find it beneficial. For the rest of you, my apologies. Katrana has returned to her true Wyld form after recent events and revoked the rule of 3 on a board note, deciding not to tell the rest of the world, which I disagreed with. Still, she is my goddess and I waited until the first Rebirth was granted to post this.

That said, I am asking that others, not only Hunt, create a rule of 3. No caveats, no special rules, just this:

I will keep no more than 3 items from any corpse of a kill that I am involved with. I can not speak for any of my groupmates, however the majority of my kills have been solo. There are no exemptions from this - even Legion will have this agreement from me. I do not expect them to honor it in return.

I would ask that any others who are interested in helping keep the realm a fun and fair place to play post their own 3 item agreement on this thread, but I'm not holding my breath.

OOC: At the Vegas GT, I talked to a couple people about the rule of 3 and this is what came of it. Didn't make my decision until Kat got upset enough at the constant controversy to revoke the Hunt-only rule of 3. Please do not use this thread as a place to flame or insult, as I will ask god+ staff to moderate it so it stays constructive discussion and hopefully other posts of people taking up the 3 item rule.

[wish]

I abide by this as well, and encourage everyone to follow suit. 'nuff said.

[Xerit]

I'll do one better. I'll return the whole corpse from every kill I'm not going to make anyway.

I hope everyone else will do the same.

(All kidding aside this is a good idea and for those of you who actually like combat a gentlemens agreement of this sort can only improve your experience with PK.)

[ink]

Count me in. I've always been behind this idea for so many reasons. It has been a large source of frustration over the past year that so many people just push it aside without thinking about the ways in which it would improve morale, excitement, and activity.

[Jashon]

I think I speak for many when I say, I shall abide by this rule of 3; except should I be the victor.

[Troy]

Hrm. I'll stand by Ink and Sagan on this. Losing all you're hard work in 15 seconds sucks and demotivates activity. Without activity I don't have people to kill in 15 sec.

So I'll pledge rule of 3!

Troy the thar thread thumper

Except for Kylor and Kylor only. I'd happily sac his corpse.

[Anduin]

I think I speak for many when I say, I shall abide by this rule of 3; except should I be the victor.

Admirable.

[Cresom]

I pledge the same thing. People have been good to me both evil followings so It should be done back.

[Eathor]

Not that I'll be online to kill anyone in the next half year or so, but I pledge to the rule of 3 as well.

[wistom]

I am all for it.

[Morphius]

I see a Wisdom Blue Aura following member and a Nexus Blue Aura following member dedicating to this rule....Funny how the other Blue Aura Legion has yet to have 1 person commit to this. Not a surprise to me. I will have a 3 item rule in effect for everyone in the realm EXCEPT for Legion, Kale, Golson.

Sincerely, Your friendly neighborhood Shaman...
The Unholy One,
Morphius

[Krouk]

Except this following, except that person, except when the person I kill has more than 3 elite items.

I sincerely hope you all honer the commitment that you have made, because granting mercy to a deserving, fallen foe can only improve the realm - yet some contributors to this thread have already Proven that they are incapable of upholding their promises. Her Wyldess has personally informed me that her followers are not bound to their word, and two in this thread have taken separate deceitful actions that have resulted in a decreased player base.

Don't claim to be friendly Morphius, when you have proven that you are not. Do not claim to be more righteous than those who are more dedicated to our player base than yourself.

Members of the Legion are capable of determining who merits a refund of their lost equipment and who does not. You will be judged based upon your actions. Prove that you are worthy of our sympathy and you will receive it.

- Krouk, Proud Minister of the Legion.

[Aster]

Attempting to keep this thread on track.

Please do not use this thread as a place to flame or insult, as I will ask god+ staff to moderate it so it stays constructive discussion and hopefully other posts of people taking up the 3 item rule.

[wish]

As much as I might like to exclude certain hateful enemies from my vow, I will not. That completely goes against the spirit of this vow.

No one is forcing you to make this vow, so don't make it if you can't keep it for every kill and every corpse loot, in every situation. Once you open the door to caveats and exceptions, then you can justify any action at that point.

I also will personally not be referring to this as the "Rule of Three", since that term implies that it is imposed by an outside force, and has connotations associated with The Hunt.

I will call it the "Code of Three".

[Kale]

I am on the fence of honoring a Code of Three. Morphius, I feel so loved. Thanks for your extra attention! When my gnomishness rifts your corpse, maybe expect some things back you eeevil dude!

On further note, there is a very good notion on why some blues would not accept this universally. Even I am skeptical. A Blue PKr often kills evils as an altruistic good deed for the realm. Accepting such a restriction limits their motivation and ability to dispense justice for the sake of others.

For example, I am motivated to rift Troy. Not for equipment. Not for glory or pride. I am motivated because Troy's behavior includes telling me to "Go drown", "In your piss" and "LOG OFF". I play this off with gnomish humor as gnomecrete lawn ornaments are impervious to acidic drowning. The only behavior modification that helps Troy is being at the repeated end of a RIFT. After Legion killed Troy a month or so ago, Troy was a much calmer evil that was less likely to inflame you with near obscenities.

As a Blue, do I accept some code that may diminish my ability to affect Troy's nasty behavior? Will Troy somehow just turn a leaf if we all accept such a code? Not to pick on Troy here, he is evil. There are plenty of other evils out there that are pretty rude and the same thought process exists for them too.

-Kale, the YARD Gnome is in your NeXuS!

[Cordir]

<RP, NOT GOD+ MODE>

Kale, if one who seeks Triat Mastery is behaving in such a manner, please log it next time and provide me a copy.

</RP, NOT GOD+ MODE>

[Sagan]

Please drop any personal vendettas or issues. If you aren't posting here to accept the Code of Three, please consider starting a new thread. Regardless of whether or not certain followings decide to accept the code or not, those of us who do can and will maintain some semblance of decency and professionalism in this thread please.

I know we all have enemies. Its no secret that I want to grant a Rebirth to all Legion, but as Wish said, this needs to transcend our petty squabbles. If you are unable to, I understand -. But you aren't signing on to the Code in truth then.

Yes, this will quite possibly backfire horribly but I think it is worth the attempt.

Krouk, Cordir has said that those who follow the Rule of Three with Hunt will be bound by it. I would ask that we all consider that the same here too - if I legitimately break this code, I would gladly accept God+ punishment. Hopefully this will end the derails.

[wish]

Personally, I see no way for this to backfire horribly if one accepts from the outset that this is a personal vow and there should be no expectation that others will return the favor in kind. In other words, Kale, this is about how you choose to conduct yourself and treat others, regardless as to how they choose to act and/or treat you. The Code of Three is not in any way meant to engender behaviour modifications of other players.

Obviously, it is within the perogatives of the Gods to act as they please, but I personally believe there should be no enforcement of the Code of Three by an outside force or by others who have taken the vow. This includes punishing those who take and later break the vow. Breaking the vow should be entirely upon ones own conscience. As Sagan has said, the purpose of this vow is simply to set a standard for returning equipment to players for the continued enjoyment of TFC by all. Those who are truly committed to this goal will keep this vow even in the face of adversity, temptation, and even when others refuse to treat them in kind.

That is the Code of Three.

[Aoide]

Count me in. I support anything that encourages a player to stick around, even when a character suffers a set back.

[Xerit]

I agree with everything Wish has said. This should be a personal Code, the Imm Staff need not be involved and throwing in exceptions goes against the entire point of Code in the first place.

If you enjoy PK and want to see it become a more active thing in the game this Code can only help that.

Remember at the end of the day it is just a game, and one that is only as fun as the other people playing it. If no one wants to do the PK thing you will be hard pressed to force them given the bevy of tools at their disposal for avoiding PK. Setting personal grudges and grievances aside so as to foster an environment where the kind of game you want to play is more readily available should be a no-brainer. Try not to let your bitterness about the past hurt what could be a much brighter future. You don't have to like the people you are playing "against", but without them, you can't play your game either.

Plus who knows, perhaps with this kind of gentlemanly agreement in place a lot of the behavior displayed by both sides which causes much of the hurt feelings will disappear. If death becomes less punishing, and pk becomes more common, people will be less emotional about an individual death.